No one goes to school for B2B marketing— or, B2B product marketing whether you consider it marketing or not. But what if one person — who worked in almost every marketing role in B2B — had a say in this discussion? Better known as the OG of B2B marketing, or should we say DG?
Dave Gerhardt, or “DG” currently leads Exit Five, the largest online B2B marketing community with 3,500+ members (like us three 💀). And, we’re lucky enough to have him on the pod. From a marketing manager in Boston, a fellow podcast host with almost over 150 episodes, a two-time CMO, and now the organizer of Drive in Burlington.
Dave is the perfect guest to ask this one question: are product marketers actually marketers?
In this 46 minutes convo, we chat about:
→One way “frameworks” might hurt your product storytelling.
→Why you can’t just start a podcast in B2B without this obvious skill?
→What Dave said is “the most important role in B2B marketing”.
→Don’t tell sales “what to do”. They almost never listen. Do this instead.
→Why “messaging by committee” sucks.
→Good news! The “80% difference” to great B2B marketing, uses two common PMM skills.
→How can we (product marketers) simplify B2B marketing.
Sit down with us and get ready for a diploma in B2B marketing after this. You won’t regret it.
01:05 – Dave’s Journey and Podcasting Tips
04:18 – The Importance of Product Marketing
06:16 – Early Stage Marketing Strategies
13:29 – Building Trust and Influence in Startups
20:24 – Positioning and Messaging Challenges
24:42 – Addressing the Decline in Win Rate
25:24 – Importance of Executing Positioning
25:57 – Casual Conversation and Personal Interests
26:58 – Messaging Torture Chamber
27:31 – Marketing Strategies: Brand vs. Content
29:14 – Event Marketing Insights
30:59 – Simplifying B2B Marketing
34:38 – The Role of Podcasts in B2B Marketing
41:23 – Conclusion and Upcoming Events
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